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It's twenty years ago today since the first X-Men movie premiered.
Here's a little treat; an insight into how comic fans viewed the oncoming movie at the time. This is a discussion verbatim from the tcj.com bulletin board in the lead up to the film's release.
Topic: that new x-men movie
Matt
Silvie Member posted May 01, 2000 05:15 PM
I
justed want to announce to the comic book journal message board forum
that I have downloaded the new x-men trailer, both versions, about
ten times. sure, it looks stagey and sucky: the leather, the club
scene look and soundtrack, etc, typical comic adaptation bullshit.
But the 13 year old pot head inside of me is pretty damned psyched.
that subject matter is too pro-wrestling to be suited for the comics
medium anyway and I'm happy to finally see this stuff where it
belongs. I know I'm just psyching myself up for a big let down, but
at least it'll be sort of fun, two hours of garbage for six bucks is
better than a 15 minute read badly drawn for the same amount. so fuck
you.
Timothy
J Miller Member posted May 01, 2000 09:57 PM
...and
suddenly the Comix 2000 hate thread becomes MUCH clearer to me...
DSR Member posted May 02, 2000 07:48 AM
I
always suspected Wolverine's hairdo would look ridiculous on screen
but it actually looks alright.
KThor
Jensen Junior Member posted May 02, 2000 09:14 AM
A
significant portion of my new job entails voraciously sucking the
dick of this movie, so I don't know whether this is a sign of too
much sperm in my brain or just the general weakening of my critical
faculties that comes with age, but I'm actually gonna step out and
say that from everything I've seen it'll be a competent to good
action/thriller, probably spawning a sequel or two. Junk, sure, but
"entertaining junk." Now I'm waiting for the Comix 2000
movie.
eric
hess Member posted May 02, 2000 09:38 AM
quote:
I always suspected Wolverine's hairdo would look ridiculous on
screen but it actually looks alright.
yes,
surprisingly, the hair looks fine.
the
guy wearing it, however...
aw,
i'm just kiddin' around. have to admit, it looks like it's going to
have its moments.
Matthewwave
Member posted May 02, 2000 03:47 PM
KThor,
Do
you happen to know the film's budget? From the previews I've seen, it
looks pretty cheap, all in all, to me. I wonder if that will reflect
in the film and keep it from becoming popular enough to warrant
sequels.
I
can't get too excited about the film, even as throwaway
entertainment. Since 91 I've been bound by a contract with myself to
not give my money to Marvel -- excepting the out of The Joe Kubert
Clause -- and except for eight individual issues that fall under that
clause, I've kept to it. And I plan to continue doing so. Thus I
didn't even see Blade, which apparently was a decent, fun junkfood
movie. Plus I like Snipes, Kristofferson and Dorff.
But
Kubert they ain't, and so...
Oh,
and I've seen Hugh (Wolverine) Jackman in non-X Men photos -- he's
quite fine.
Matthew
Austin
English Member posted May 02, 2000 03:54 PM
The
real question: will it be better then Spawn?
Nick
Mullins Member posted May 02, 2000 04:07 PM
That
was a joke, right?
Matt
Silvie Member posted May 02, 2000 06:00 PM
Timothy
J Miller raves: "...and suddenly the Comix 2000 hate thread
becomes MUCH clearer to me..."
yeah,
I hated it cause it didnt have wolverine in it, you stupid prick. you
got me
Matthewwave
groans: "Since 91 I've been bound by a contract with myself
to not give my money to Marvel."
Aw,
shit man, you didnt quit till you were 91 fucking years old?! I was
15 when I quit reading that shit. sucks to be you.
KThor
Jensen shares: "This will be the greatest movie ever made."
I
dont know about that, KThor. It does look cheap and stagey, as noted
by old man Matthewwave. It looks like the whole thing was shot in one
dark as shit studio. The sets look cheaper than the shit they got on
tv. I'm 100percent sure this thing will suck hard, the question is,
will it be cool and nostalgic to see those old comic book characters
up on the screen, or will it be as dismaying as last years star wars,
or the batman movies. I'm guessing the latter. but I'll still see it.
Austin
English Member posted May 02, 2000 08:27 PM
Nick:
Of course! Although, I must admit, I did see Spawn, and it had a few
guilty pleasures in it. John Legquizamo (sp?) was funny as The Clown.
Matt
Silvie Member posted May 02, 2000 10:09 PM
I
couldnt stand spawn. the directing was such a mess I had no idea what
was going on, it had no sense of linear narrative. it was like just
these jerky shots of random scenes strung together randomly. it gave
me a headache.
DSR Member posted May 03, 2000 08:46 AM
I
was about to write that I've never watched Spawn, but I realised I've
never read a Spawn comic either.
I've
never liked McFarlane's artwork. It's just not to my taste. It looks
messy to me.
Nick
Mullins Member posted May 03, 2000 10:12 AM
Austin:
I saw Spawn also. I liked the compuyer graphics in the cape. But the
devil was so bad I laughed in the theatre. Also, all the other spawns
in hell were just the same CGI put into a perpetual loop. It looked
like Jazzercise in hell.
And
yes, the directing was horrible. The fight scenes made absolutely no
sense.
I
can't remember why I saw the move, because I've never read the comic.
KThor
Jensen Junior Member posted May 03, 2000 11:54 AM
Matt
Silvie drooled: "I suck dick in rest stop bathrooms for
quarters."
Don't
put words in my mouth, shitstain. We just finished up the summer
movie preview bullshit here and after sitting through hours of
crapola it's looking more and more like it's going to be this year's
one big summer blockbuster, akin to Independance Day or what have
you, only Bryan Singer isn't quite an Emmerich-level hack. And you
fucking started this thread so what the holy hell are you complaining
about? As for the budget, it is cheap (comparatively) at $75 million
- a drop in the bucket compared with, say, uber-shitheel Michael
Bay's "Pearl Harbor." As for "stagey," I will
agree that the locations are not great, and that will probably work
against it, but I can't see the leather costumes or the fuckshit
soundtrack causing any problems. As above: entertaining junk. "Cecil
B. Demented," the new John Waters flick, however, looks mighty
fine.
Austin
English Member posted May 03, 2000 04:25 PM
Well,
I hope this film fails miserably.
j.
todd dockery Member posted May 04, 2000 01:23 AM
didn't
singer direct "usual suspects"? I mean, it wasn't a bad
film so...
however,
more leather clad bunk does not excite me.
we
are living in a post "matrix" world and unfortunately I am
not a post "matrix" gal.
t
edward bak Member posted May 06, 2000 03:02 PM
What
the hell is an "X-Man" anyhow? I don't read read those
books. They're like "super champions", right? Isn't there
supposed to be a "Superman" movie with Tim Burton?
Jesus,
I'm sorry I have to do this, but remember when Mr. Rogers used to
take everybody off to Never-Never Fairy Land or whatever the fuck it
was off in the Trolley and there were those weird puppets in that
castle? And there was that one old hag puppet. Remember that? Well,
the guy sitting at the computer a couple down from me sounds just
like that character. He keeps talking to his computer and snickering.
I'd
like to break something over his head BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE
ANGRY ANYMORE, DAMN IT!!
DSR Member posted May 08, 2000 09:40 AM
Remember
years ago when they were first talking about making this movie and
Wolverine was going to be the crazy guy from "Hill Street
Blues"?
krisstacks
Junior Member posted May 09, 2000 02:26 PM
nope
Matt
Silvie Member posted June 08, 2000 05:19 PM
word
up, bitches
I
cant believe how unpopular this thread was. it was my baby and now I
have resurrected it.
anyway,
there's yet another version of the x-men trailer up now, at the link
below. someone tell Pete Bagge
I
see. So there is an evil force that threatens the world and these
"X-men" are some sort of heroic group of "go-getters"
who are going to intervene on behalf of humanity. Sounds interesting.
I hope they win.
Matt
Silvie Member posted June 10, 2000 12:57 PM
So
do I, Jon. But who can say? In the preview there is a cryptic moment
where Wolverine questions the legitimacy of fighting the evil mutants
instead of the racist humans. So I guess the story could go ANYWHERE
does
anyone think Halle Berry's miscast as Storm (Ororro? Oreo?)? I aint
bitchin that I'm gonna have to ogle her hot ass for two hours, but in
the comic isnt Storm alot older and wiser? Halle Berry's a feisty
little sex kitten with big titties. On second thought, I guess she's
the perfect comic book bitch. nevermind. my bad.
Matt
Silvie Member posted June 21, 2000 10:48 PM
yo.
so I've been watching this x-men preview about two or three times a
day and I'm kinda diggin that little chick from that movie, The
Piano, that Anna Pauquin (sp?), she's the little chick with wolverine
and shes got that hood on and shit. but I dont know what character
she's supposed to be. I'm guessing Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat. but who
knows? does anyone know? do YOU? also this friend of mine says the
bitch that plays Rogue is all that, but I dont remember seeing anyone
looking Rogue-ish in any of the three previews. who here on the comic
book message board forum will help me?
Matthewwave
Member posted June 21, 2000 11:13 PM
I
believe Panquin plays Rogue.
Matthew
Sean
Medlock Member posted June 22, 2000 09:44 AM
If
you ask me, Angela Bassett would be perfect for Storm. But then,
nobody asked me.
I
just hope they spin off a whole series of Wolverine movies so I can
relive my 7th grade revenge fantasies.
cian
Member posted June 23, 2000 04:30 AM
Need.
Alcohol. Now.
Eli
Bishop Member posted June 29, 2000 08:17 AM
Cian-
for God's sake, get off the computer and go to a liquor store before
it's too late! We can't help you here!
Sean-
I agree, but she's too classy for this thing and anyway she has
pupils in her eyes.
Silvie-
if there's a 13-year-old pothead inside you, better keep it to
yourself- statutory rape laws don't make allowances for who's on top.
Though "the 13-year-old pothead inside of me is pretty damned
psyched" might make a good blurb for the movie ads...
All-
I must admit that I read the silly promotional material on the
"mutantwatch.com" site and I'm wondering who the
ghostwriter was for some of this stuff. Some of it is kind of funny,
but not much compared to some of Alan Moore's throwaway bits in Top
Ten. In one of those, Mayor Genovese complains: "I mean, some
kid who lives on your block gets hit by some weird meteorite, next
thing you know he's flying, he shoots death-rays out of his ass,
whatever"-- which latter detail made me hope against hope that
they got Moore's permission to borrow that character for the movie;
Hollywood logic requires that Logan go up against Sabretooth, but who
will represent the dark side of Cyclops, if not that kid down the
block? With today's special effects, it can finally be done!
Matt
Silvie Member posted June 29, 2000 12:42 PM
Oh,
Eli, you ol whip. You know that I didnt mean that I had a 13 year old
pot head's dick inside my asshole. I meant that I still have that
spirit of youthful vigor, anticipation and propensity for fantasy.
But thanks for asking, as your post allowed me the opportunity to
clarify for others who might have been confused.
As
for who the writers for this masterpiece are, I have attached a list
of the geniuses needed to craft this fine work:
Christopher
McQuarrie
Ed
Solomon
Laeta
Kalogridis
Blanche
McDermaid
Joss
Whedon
David
Hayt
Yes,
Eli, THAT Joss Whedon, of Buffy the Vampire Slayer fame.
[This
message has been edited by Matt Silvie (edited June 29, 2000).]
Ludwig
Member posted June 29, 2000 04:41 PM
That
would be Joss Whedon.
[This
message has been edited by Ludwig (edited June 29, 2000).]
Well,
now you've fixed it, so this post makes no sense. I hate this
edit-the-message-after-the-fact thing...
[This
message has been edited by Ludwig (edited June 30, 2000).]
Matthewwave
Member posted June 30, 2000 01:40 AM
Bassett
is reported to have actively campaigned for the role of Storm.
And
I read once in The National Inquirer that she actually *doesn't"
have pupils.
Matthew
Sean
Medlock Member posted June 30, 2000 06:15 AM
How
could she have pupils? She's not a teacher, is she? Ha ha ha!
Speaking
of dorks like me, I was reading somewhere that Whedon has publicly
bitched out the producers of the movie for not using his ideas. Oh,
and John Byrne is disappointed that they're not using Wolverine's
"real" costume.
Tim
Lockwood posted June 30, 2000 12:02 PM
That
comment by Byrne,if accurate,is par for the course for that guy.I
think that the odds are in favor of the X-men movie being as crappy
as the Batman movies were and using the comic book costumes would
just be another negative point. I always thought that the
costumes/uniforms thatsuperheroes wear was one of the genres' worst
traits and continues to this day.
Matt
Silvie Member posted June 30, 2000 12:40 PM
I
was at Target the other day and saw the x-men toys. the Wolverine toy
isnt called Wolverine, he's called Logan.
Matt
Silvie Member posted July 05, 2000 03:08 PM
speaking
of wolverine, what is his origin? I seem to recall this really murky
Barry windsor-smith issue of Marvel Comics Presents, that lame assed
anthology thing, that had wolverine in a lab with millions of tubes
sticking out of him, and he kills all the scientists and runs out in
to the snow. but that's all I remember. does anyone know the truth?
Eli
Bishop Member posted July 05, 2000 05:13 PM
Matt-
Well, maybe someone does, but you won't know unless you read this.
Aren't you sorry you asked?
The new episode of That Comic Smell is now online.
Have a listen at iTunes, Soundcloud and YouTube.
From the website:
"Welcome! to a brand new episode of That Comic Smell. You're gonna LOVE this one... I'm sorry.
In this episode the folks here dive head first into the real heart of comics. They discuss different kinds of love in comics, what some of their favourite picks are with love as a theme and even some in the title and really pump through some amazing books (ok, the puns are done. Hand on heart, I promise)
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Here are the titles we discussed:
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Raptors (Jean Dufaux, Enrico Marini)
The Far Side (Gary Larson)
Modern Slorance [Torts and Tinder] (Neil Slorance)
Blue is the Warmest Colour (Julie Maroh)
Love & Rockets (Los Bros Hernandez)
The Sculptor (Scott McCloud)
The Story of Sex [From Apes to Robots] (Laetitia Coryn, Philippe Brenot)
Ethel & Ernest (Raymond Briggs)
The Lovely Horrible Stuff (Eddie Campbell)
Weird Love (Various)
Boy in my Pocket [Billy Dogma] (Dean Haspiel)
X-men [Scott and Jean] (John Byrne)
Spider-man Annual
Drawn Together (Aline & R.Crumb)
Batman [Mad Love] (Paul Dini, Bruce Timm)
Samurai Executioner (Kazuo Koike, Goseki Kojima)
Silver Surfer [Rebirth of Thanos] (Jim Starlin)
Slaine [The King] (Pat Mills, Glenn Fabry)
The Mighty Thor (Walt Simonson)
Hellblazer (Alan Moore, Stephen Bissette)
Liberty Meadows (Frank Cho)
Blankets (Craig Thompson)
Saga (Brian K Vaughan)
Archie
Calvin & Hobbes (Bill Watterson)
Moscow (Øystein Runde, Ida Neverdahl)
Erik the Red (Søren Mosdal)
Comics Cookbook (Various)
Staring from the Hill (Norbert Rybarczyk)
Chernobyl [The Zone] (Francisco Sánchez, Natacha Bustos)
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The Awesome Comics Anthology Volume 1 (Vince Hunt, Dan Butcher, Tony Esmond, Daniel Marchant, Nick Prolix)
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An enjoyable job I decided to do recently was give a talk to a book group of 8-11 year olds on the subject of super-heroes. I like to use the wider interest in the movies to lead them back to the comics.
I thought I'd post the powerpoint I used. It might be helpful to anyone out there wanting to do a similar thing.
They're in alphabetical order. The text was also cut back to bullet words when I gave the talk.
Fortuitously, the first one up - Ant-Man - was also the most recent. The kids were on board right away. The format is comic image on the left; movie image on the right.
The Avengers covered a lot of the Marvel heroes they had heard of. Another thing I wanted to get across to them was how old these characters are. Between 50 - 80 odd years. Long enough for adults; an unthinkable eternity for these youngsters.
Why 'Batman: Year One'? The comics images were chosen by the criteria that they were titles that were available to loan in the library.
The movie images were chosen in the main to be the most recent iteration of the characters. I told the group I hadn't seen the most recent Fantastic Four movie. 'It's not good' opined one kid. Oh dear.
I like the similarity between the Flash comic and TV show images here. And I couldn't resist putting that groan-worthy comment at the end.
I made sure to point out the distinction of The Incredibles not being from a comic.
One of the children at this point put his hand up to tell me that he had a DVD of The Incredibles and the first disc was very good but the second was boring. It just has people talking on it. I enjoyed that interjection.
During discussion of Spider-Man, the laptop shut down altogether for an update. Thank you, Microsoft.
It allowed me to steal more time with the group and answer their questions though.
Always got to reference the mountains of cash a few comics like the first Superman appearance sell for. It gets an 'oo' and an 'ah' from the adults too.
The photo above (chosen for its dramatic qualities) caused some immediate intrigue, and the question 'Wait, has Wonder Woman been in a movie?'
I mentioned the possible connection between the lie detector machine and Wonder Woman's lasso of truth.
X-Men were the last characters chosen by me, then I wanted to give the kids a chance to mention their favourites with this:
Many suggestions followed, including Firestorm, Doctor Who and Jedi Knights. Some lateral thinking there. Why not? They have super-powers.
An enjoyable talk for me, and the group were very engaged and appeared to like it.
This is the seventh in a series of guest posts I'm running
over the summer. I asked folk to write on any topic at any length - as long as
it's comics related. Next up is Gary Smith...
I imagine that most comic fans will have an opinion about
John Byrne, but the nature of this view will probably be heavily influenced by
when readers were first exposed to his work. For fans who were first exposed to
his work in the 1970s, he will perhaps be best remembered as the young hot shot artist
who cut his teeth on Iron Fist and helped take the X-Men to new heights of
popularity. For fans who began reading in the 80s he may be forever linked with
the Fantastic Four or his revamp of the Superman franchise. For fans in the
1990s it will perhaps be his run on She-Hulk or the launch of his Next Men
title. Despite this huge catalogue of well received work in the comics
industry, it's likely that fans introduced to John Byrne after the year 2000
will associate him less with his creative output and more with the forthright
views he expresses through his website and forum, regularly giving his honest
opinion on characters, creators and developments within the world of comics.
From the controversy that surrounded his comments on Jessica Alba's casting as
Sue Storm to the coining of the term Byrne-stealing (essentially arguing that
reading a book and putting it back on the stands without purchasing it amounted
to theft), in recent years there have been no shortage of newsworthy quotes
arising from Byrne's use of social media.
My thoughts drifted to John Byrne after reading the recent
Marvel title, All New X-Factor issue 7. In it, two characters have a
discussion about whether a creator should be separated from their work, and
whether it is justifiable to read a book - and therefore implicitly support -
an author that may have questionable views. The character of Quicksilver is
outraged that his team-mate, Danger, is reading a novel by Scott Dakei, a
prominent anti mutant campaigner. Danger, for her part, argues that the content
of the novel have nothing to do with this issue, and that the author's personal
politics do not factor into the novel at all. This debate struck a chord with
me because while John Byrne is perhaps the most prominent example, comic fans
now enjoy a level of unprecedented access to creators, engaging with them in a
way that would have been unthinkable even ten years ago.
1960s Marvel was built on the illusion that it was one big,
happy community. Creators were given nicknames, letters pages were answered in
a more informal manner; even caption boxes and editors' notes were written in a
jocular style. Yet for all this informality, fans at the time were unlikely to
know where the creators stood on popular issues (aside from generic
representations of the national mood, such as the fear of communism). As the
new wave of Marvel writers emerged in the 1970s, including Steve Gerber and
Steve Englehart, it was apparent that many of them were politically to the left
of their older colleagues, but unless a reader ventured into the world of the
fan press it is unlikely that they would have been able to definitively
pinpoint their views.
In the modern comic community, with the majority of creators
having a presence on Facebook and Twitter, as well as their own Blogs or web
sites, it's relatively easy for fans to work out just where their favourite
creators stand on certain issues. Countless creators are only too keen to tweet
their thoughts on every conceivable subject, from the serious to the mundane. The
question is whether any thoughts so expressed should have an impact on the way
that their work is perceived.
In a perfect world the answer would be no. As long as the
offensive opinions aren't reflected in their work then there should be no
reason not to buy it, and readers should be able to enjoy the work on its own
merits. In practice, though, this can sometimes be harder to do. Personally, I
have been somewhat surprised by the number of people I have recently seen on
Facebook vowing to remove from their friend list anyone that they know to have
voted for UKIP in the recent elections. To many people, casting a vote in this
way, despite being people exercising their democratic right to vote for a party
of their choosing, appears to be so horrific that it outweighs every favourable
quality those individuals may possess.
Alongside John Byrne, Dave Sim is another creator who became
as famous for his outspoken views as he was for his creative output - perhaps
even more so. His essays in each issue of Cerebus highlighted his views on a
variety of subjects, with many relating to his views on woman. Courting much
controversy, Cerebus, and much of Sim's work, is viewed by many as a platform
for him to express his worldview. That raises an interesting point. Sim is
undoubtedly a talented creator, yet many readers left Cerebus before the end of
its run, growing weary of the increasingly specific direction that Sim's views
were taking the title down. Let's imagine that Sim stuns the comic world by
agreeing to work on a mainstream superhero - say, Green Arrow. Should it matter
that he has strong opinions that may be objectionable to some? If someone admires
him as a creator but despises his politics, is there any reason for them to
boycott a run that is unlikely to feature as distinct an authorial voice?
There are no easy answers to this topic and I can fully
understand why some readers may be so put off by a creator's behaviour that
they may boycott their work, but what advantage is gained in doing so? If the
creator hasn't advocated anything illegal or morally dubious, is this still
enough to transform the way their work is perceived?
For me, much of it comes down to admiration. I want the
creators that I admire to also be people that I can admire, ones that share my
views and act in a way that I think is appropriate. Sadly, this isn't always
the case, but as I grow older I'm increasingly accepting of the fact that life
is made up of all sorts of people, with a huge variety of views. If a creator
produces fantastic work then perhaps that is enough. If they're also what I
would consider a 'decent' person, then that's even better. Or if I really want to
preserve my enjoyment of my favourite creators perhaps I should refrain from
social media and recapture some of that mystique that creators had to earlier
generations of fans. Sometimes, it must be said, ignorance really is bliss.
Further to this previous post, the above is from X-Men: Days of Future Past, the time travel story published in 1980 that the next movie will be based on. In the comic, the far-flung future is 2013, and the present is 1980. The upcoming movie will feature the prequel cast (set in the 1960s) and some of the cast from the 2000-2006 movies. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
I’ve just read what’s going on with the next X-Men movie and I am impressed.
I like the first two movies, but not the third, and I haven’t even watched the prequel as that seemed like a way to make another X-Men movie and not pay the established cast to be in it. But here’s what I understand is going on:
1. Director Bryan Singer is back. This is good. He’s the reason the first two movies worked.
2. It’s an adaptation of Chris Claremont and John Byrne's Days of Future Past from 1981 – probably the second most popular X-Men storyline (after Dark Phoenix, which X-Men 2 set the stage for and X-Men 3 screwed up).
3. Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen are back in some capacity. Days of Future Past is a time travel story, so they’ll probably get younger actors to play them in the flashback stuff.
4. They are! They’re using the actors from that prequel they did last year to be the young versions. That’s pretty neat and tidy, and as far as I can make out, it wasn’t the original plan. Matthew Vaughn who made the prequel wanted to do a second prequel set in the 70s. This tying up of the two X-Men series (three I suppose, if you count the Wolverine movies) would seem to be Singer’s idea.
So I thought I was finished with X-Men movies, but there is hope.
Thursday, February 25, 2010
TODD McFARLANE
In the early 1990s, Todd McFarlane was the hottest artist working at Marvel Comics. He worked on the long-running Amazing Spider-Man title, catapulting it to massive success. After a while, a new Spider-Man title was created and sold on McFarlane’s name (and new status as writer/artist). That first issue sold somewhere around 2-3 million copies. Which seems ridiculous, especially by today’s standards, where the most successful Marvel Comics sell about 100k. But apparently that is the amount the title sold.
After that, he left Marvel altogether, taking 5 or 6 other “hot” artists with him to create a new company – Image Comics. Would readers go with the superstar writer/artists on new characters, or stick with the characters Spider-Man, The Hulk and X-Men at Marvel?
Well, for a time, Image was a sales phenomenon. McFarlane’s own Spawn was another million-seller, the other books were big hits too, and the DC / Marvel domination of the US industry was substantially cracked.
Personally, I never liked McFarlane’s style. Before he did Spider-Man, he drew The Hulk, and I didn’t like him on there. His rise to comics superstardom was a mystery to me.
So, why am I devoting time to the guy?
This is all a mere preamble to an interview I’d recommend you give a listen. In 1992, at the height of McFarlane’s success, Gary Groth spoke with him. They are living in different worlds, and it’s a fabulous meeting of minds.
In 1987, a few of my comics reading friends and I grew tired with the dilapidated selection of US comics available in our provincial newsagents. We decided it was time to head off to Edinburgh for a visit to a real life comic shop.
I cobbled together a few weeks' pocket money. One of my mates got a lot more than me on a weekly basis, and then had the temerity to find a tenner in a taxi the day before our trip.
After a couple of hours on the bus and a seemingly endless trek, we finally found our objective: Science Fiction Bookshop, West Cross Causeway.
Entering that shop was unbelievable. It was the first wall of comics I'd ever seen, and I think I just stood and stared for a long time before making any kind of move towards it.
We spent all afternoon there, chatting with one of the young employees. He was very friendly, and went digging in the back shop, looking for items we asked about.
Later that year, in a follow up to the X-Men story I wrote about here, Colossus visited Edinburgh. And guess where he was pictured...
I guess X-Men writer Chris Claremont had visited the shop on a signing tour and promised to feature it. It was great to see these iconic characters in Edinburgh. And so soon after the excitement of discovering my first comic shop, here it was in X-Men, one of the hottest comics around at the time.
The story has many tropes of a foreign portrayal of Scotland. Dodgy accents and all. It also has a rudimentary understanding of the Scottish political mindset. One of the kids shouts as an insult: "Yuir Dad voted for Thatcher" - not a popular political figure in Scotland, despite being the UK's prime minister in 1987.
Good times. Science Fiction Bookshop was bought over by Forbidden Planet a few years later. I still miss that shop I walked into in 1987, but it's a great memory.
Here's to you, Neil, Steve and Chris. We had a blast.
Friday, December 04, 2009
SCOTLAND IN COMICS 4
In 1987, Chris Claremont and Marc Silvestri brought the X-Men to Edinburgh. Dazzler, Rogue, Psylocke and Longshot had a big fight with Juggernaut on Princes Street...
At the time, I liked Silvestri's art. There was a certain lack of weight to everything and it all looked dashed off, but it was different. In retrospect, it was the first of the "Image" style of art I'd come across.
I like the cheeky Doctor Who reference on this next page. Also the mention of Captain Britain, at this time a Marvel UK character that the US comics ignored almost completely. Claremont was already writing towards his later Excalibur series, which featured Captain Britain prominently.
Next, we have some locals having a chat after the X-Men have sorted out Juggernaut.
Just for the hell of it, here is the cover. It's a goodie.
It was good to see Art Adams draw Longshot again - I liked the original series drawn by him.
A few months after this X-Men issue, Colossus visited Edinburgh. This story had a nice personal touch for me. More anon...
Wednesday, September 09, 2009
STRANGE TALES
Today I picked up Marvel Comics’ Strange Tales anthology. This comic is the same vein as DC’s Bizarro books, and Dark Horse’s Star Wars Tales. Contributions come from Peter Bagge, Nick Bertozzi, Jason, James Kochalka, Junko Mizuno, Perry Bible Fellowship, Paul Pope and more. A stellar line up for sure, taking time out to do a super-hero story.
Here is An X-Men one-pager by the Perry Bible Fellowship:
I haven't read X-Men in over 20 years, but that's gotta be the best mutant story they've published in a long time!
Get down to a comics shop and buy this one quickly. A co-worker of mine has read Bizarro and asked me to get him a copy of this new title. But my comics retailer had no copies left. I’d got mine because I asked for it in advance, but other than that, he had under-ordered it. He said quite a few people had asked for it and were disappointed...
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